Oct 23-25 Akayu Lodge & Secret Onsen, Naebasan (苗場山)

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Oct 23-25 Akayu Lodge & Secret Onsen, Naebasan (苗場山)

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Update:


1) Adam
2) Nozomi
3) Justin
4) Asuka
5) Kelly
6) Tivon

Team JANKAT

Waitlist:
1) Aspeeters



Introduction:

In the mountains of Echigo Yuzawa is a hidden onsen lodge established in the 1800s. The only way it can be reached is by foot on a mountain trail. The lodge maintains 3 separate, open-air baths that sit by the river. It's even possible to go from the onsen water, into the cool river water, and back into the warm bath. The lodge has a large dining room and several small tatami rooms to stay overnight in. A trail leading to the lodge continues all the way to the broad and marsh-covered summit of Naebasan (a top-100 mountain). On a typical year, this will be the time of peak autumn colors. I anticipate this will be a popular trip, but it has limited space (6 members total). If you don't sign up in time, let me know and I'll add you to a waiting list, as it's not uncommon that spaces become available later. Reservations for Akayu Onsen have already been made.



Trip Summary:

The strategy for this trip (and most of my trips) is to work hard on Friday and Saturday, then completely relax on Saturday night and Sunday. This trip exemplifies this strategy. You will need to bust your hump getting your gear ready during the week ahead, especially getting to Asakadai on time Friday. It's a 3 hour drive to the trailhead. Then, we must hike two hours IN THE DARK (yorumori 夜森) with headlamps on a sometimes narrow (but safe) trail to the campsite. We'll quietly set up our tents (maybe other people around) in a small flat area near the stream and get some sleep before an ambitious day.

After about only 5 hours of sleep we have an ALPINE START (5am wake-up) followed by a day of SEVERE hiking with 1,200m of vertical and 12km distance. We'll have a quick breakfast (oatmeal & coffee) and begin the hike up Naebasan (5 hours map time - one way). Enjoy the summit and head down the same way, through a beautiful and colorful forest that resembles fruity pebbles. We should reach the lodge around dinner time where we can finally relax with a delicious lodge meal (last time the proprietors shared the local mushrooms they foraged in the surrounding forest), local Niigata nihonshu (we must bring), and onsens until our heart's content. We'll treat ourselves to a nights stay at the lodge.

Sunday we'll have a hearty lodge breakfast, more onsen, and take the two-hour walk back to the car. We can return to Tokyo leisurely, maybe even have a bonus onsen in the way home (I know some!).



Schedule:

Friday 23 October
19:00 - Meet at Asakadai Station
21:30 - Arrive at trailhead
23:30 - Arrive at campsite

Saturday 24 October
5:00 - breakfast (oatmeal & coffee)
6:00 - begin hike
13:00 - summit or designated turn around time
17:00 - lodge
18:00 - dinner at lodge

Sunday 25 October
- breakfast at lodge
- return to car
- bonus onsen (I know some places!)
- sushi dinner
19:00 - Asakadai Station



Event Grade, Safety (イベント等級, 安全)
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=3451

Fitness Grade 7 - Severe
8:30 hours walking time & 1,200m altitude climb

Technical 3 MODERATE - Above Beginner (初級上)
One section near the top with some chains



Sign Up Conditions, Contact Details:

ALL members who wish to join must reply to this post. Spaces are allocated on a first-come-first-serve basis. Only 5 spaces are available. If you did not sign up in time I can add you to a waiting list, and there is still a chance you can join.



Things to Bring (持参もの)
  • tent (limited space, share if possible)
  • sleeping pad
  • sleeping bag
  • cup/mug, bowl, spoon
  • proper hiking sneakers or boots
  • fleece/jumper
  • rain/wind gear (top and bottom)
  • trail lunch
  • energy food
  • onsen towel
  • 8,500yen cash for lodge
  • BYOB (I recommend nihonshu)




Travel Details, Meeting Time & Place (旅行の詳細, 集合時間と場所):

19:00 - Asakadai Station (North Exit)/Kita-Asaka Station (East Exit) at McDonald's



Cost (estimate) per person:

6,500yen - transportation (estimate)
8,500yen - lodge fee (1 night 2 meals)

OCJ is funded by 500yen event attendance (up to 3 days). Collected by organizer who sends half of that to the club PayPal account for website costs.


Akayu Naeba painted.jpg
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side stream.JPG
riverside onsen.JPG
autumn glory.JPG
fruity pebbles.JPG
Naeba ponds.JPG
Naeba summit.JPG
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warm beds.JPG
easy Sunday.JPG
Last edited by Adam on Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:41 am, edited 19 times in total.
beccalyman

Post by beccalyman »

This trip looks like a blast! Unfortunately, I’ve already planned to be in Hakone that weekend. Depending on whether the lodge is available, would anyone be up for doing it the following weekend? (I.e. a second trip with a separate set of people). Not sure if the trail/route would be clear enough to do it without Adam’s fearless leadership...?
Nozomi

Post by Nozomi »

Hi Adam, the plan looks great. Please count me in. This is irresistible cheerleader
Justink

Post by Justink »

Absolutely in. Looks awesome
Asuka

Post by Asuka »

I’m in! My favorite place:) Asuka
Kushal

Post by Kushal »

Although I went there a few weeks back, I'm in!! Back to Naeba-san cheerleader
KellyNi

Post by KellyNi »

Me me me, last spot is mine please!
Adam

Post by Adam »

I knew this trip would fill up quickly. We are 100% old members, so I anticipate this trip to run like a well-oiled machine. The hike up Naeba is quite long and steep at times, and it will surely test covid-era fitness levels. I have no doubt we can all make it, but we'll certainly want to make sure we are all back in time for the delicious lodge supper. An early start on Saturday is essential. Hopefully the proprietors will have made a good mushroom harvest this year and will be spreading their haul. A bottle of Niigata nihonshu pairs quite well with their meals, but we'll need to bring our own.

If everyone agrees, why don't we set up a tarp for all of us to sleep under for Friday night? I think it will be good weather for that as long as you have warm sleeping bags. If you don't think you have a warm enough bag, my trick is to bring two. Plus, sleep in your clothes. That's usually how I travel in the winter. Please weigh in on the tarp decision. Still plenty of time to decide...
Last edited by Adam on Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Kushal

Post by Kushal »

Hey Adam, hopefully second time's a charm for an even better Naeba hike!

I'm okay with the tarp idea. I've got a 30m tent rope in case you need it.
Nozomi

Post by Nozomi »

Hi Adam,

I am okay with all of us sleeping under a tarp.

I am wondering weather to bring:

- Winter sleeping bag (comport level: -7 degrees celsius)
- Summer sleeping bag (Comfort Level: 8 degrees celsius)

I expect the temperature at night at the campground around 7-10 degrees. Do you agree?

Do you think we can leave some of our stuff at Akayu Onsen before we hike up Naebasan?

Thank you.

Nozomi
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Post by Andy OCJ »

Akayu onsen is at 1000m altitude. At that time of year (actually around the 15-20th) it is usually around 0C at 1000m in Nikko or Okukinu. Naeba is also a cold area. I would plan for the same temperature.
First week of November on the last 2 trips I did to Shimonita-machi in Gunma it was freezing... that is near the station at the government campsite at an altitude of only 300m.

I would take the -7 sleeping bag.
Or risk it and wear all your clothes inside +8C bag. Maybe use a hot water bottle, survival sheet wrapped around. ... easier carrying a warmer sleeping bag for almost flat valley hike.
Nozomi

Post by Nozomi »

Andy,

Hope you are well?
Thank you for the useful advice. I will bring my winter sleeping bag.

Nozomi
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Post by applenyc »

Can I get on the waitlist please.
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Post by applenyc »

beccalyman wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:43 pm This trip looks like a blast! Unfortunately, I’ve already planned to be in Hakone that weekend. Depending on whether the lodge is available, would anyone be up for doing it the following weekend? (I.e. a second trip with a separate set of people). Not sure if the trail/route would be clear enough to do it without Adam’s fearless leadership...?
Id be interest if the waitlist doesn't pan out. The following weekend can turn into a 5 day weekend by taking Monday off, hmmm. Please keep me posted if serious!
tivon

Post by tivon »

Can you please add me to the waitlist?

Also would be interested in a possible trip the following weekend.

Tivon
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Post by Deleted User 1795 »

Hi! I would also like to join the waitlist if possible (me and a +1).
Adam

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Kushal wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:48 pmI've got a 30m tent rope in case you need it.
Sure Kushal, bring it. A tent rope is a lot lighter and smaller than my 6mm rope. That will save us a little space. I will bring guylines and pegs for the corners.


Nozomi wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:08 am I expect the temperature at night at the campground around 7-10 degrees. Do you agree?
Yes, I agree. And maybe rain on Friday night too.

Nozomi wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:08 am Do you think we can leave some of our stuff at Akayu Onsen before we hike up Naebasan?
I don't think they will mind, they are kind folks. We may also pack things in the tarp and leave it at the campsite if we want.


Update:

The forecast is calling for rain Friday, rain then clear on Saturday (possibly some snow on and near the summit), and clear on Sunday. It's still too early to know exactly what the weather will do. Plan on cold and wet and you should be OK.

I have made the reservation for the van. I will bring the hobo pie maker and some ingredients. We can have a hobo pie and some spiced wine before bed on Friday. I will also prepare breakfast burritos and coffee for Saturday morning.
Kushal

Post by Kushal »

Hey Adam, I think I might have a minor leg injury. I thought it was just a bit of strain like always, but it's not going away. I'll have to sit out this weekend and let Tivon join in my place. Sorry it's a bit last minute.
Adam

Post by Adam »

Ok Kushal, thanks for the update and take care of yourself. Hit the sento if you can.

Tivon, you are next on the list. Please let us know by 5pm tomorrow. After that, I will open the offer to Aspeeters and then on to any other members first thing Friday morning.

This is a really nice trip everyone. It's a secret lodge in the mountains with large onsens next to the river. The staff are super kind people and the atmosphere is super warm and cozy. The valley has great colors and it's going to be peak season. On top of all that, we have a good forecast.

This is Asuka's favorite trip.
tivon

Post by tivon »

I'm in. See you all soon!
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